07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

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07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:34 pm

I will be commencing a siege of the city 07Hatsya on Thursday. This city is right next door to Lionel and is of great strategic importance. That said, I expect a big fight to take this city. Furthermore, it does not have water access so my fleet will not be of use and I will need all the help I can get. Here is a scout report from a two days ago, I tried getting a recent scout report but they were all killed:


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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:35 pm

In terms of besieging it, Nortain will be providing the rams. I will have 30k berserkers from Arcadia sieging it. My baron siege force will be coming from Balfonheim and will be composed of knights and crossbowmen at 20-30k troop strength.

More help to keep their unit numbers down throughout the siege would be greatly appreciated. I am looking to commence it at around 10am server time. Thursday morning.

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Post  Guest on Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:22 pm

1400 rams approximately - 1D 2:18:55 to get there
27k Zerks/Mage - 20:48:44 to get there
45 Zerks/ 12k Paly - 20:37:05 to get there

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:24 pm

Siege times:

For Kryllik, here are the times and attack orders I would like you to hit 07Hatsya with:
Ram army: hit at 10:05am server time on Thursday with the siege attack order.
Berserkers/Mages army: Hit at 10:06am server time on Thursday with the assault attack order.
Berserkers/Paladin army: Hit at 10:08am server time on Thursday with the siege attack order.
Catapult army: Hit at 10:11am server time on Thursday with the assault attack order.

For Nortain, here are the times and attack orders I would like you to hit 07Hatsya with:
Ram army: Hit at 10:05am server time on Thursday with the siege attack order.
I forget what else you have, but whatever other armies you have can you siege with them? The times you would want to siege are between 10:08am and 10:10am server time.

My orders will be:
Berserker army: Hit at 10:07am server time with the siege attack order.
Baron army: Hit at 10:12am server time with the siege attack order.

In summary here is the attack order:
KRYLLIK: Ram army: hit at 10:05am server time on Thursday with the siege attack order.
NORTAIN: Ram army: Hit at 10:05am server time on Thursday with the siege attack order.
KRYLLIK: Berserkers/Mages army: Hit at 10:06am server time on Thursday with the assault attack order.
XALARA: Berserker army: Hit at 10:07am server time with the siege attack order.
KRYLLIK: Berserkers/Paladin army: Hit at 10:08am server time on Thursday with the siege attack order.
NORTAIN/KRYLLIK: Additional armies can hit between 10:09 and 10:10
KRYLLIK: Catapult army: Hit at 10:11am server time on Thursday with the assault attack order.
XALARA: Baron army: Hit at 10:12am server time with the siege attack order.

If you guys think you have a better attack order with your own armies, then you can use those. Expect this to be a big fight. Also, please do not send catapults to siege, we don't want to destroy the city. That

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:33 pm

Finally, one last thing. When you send out your armies. Send out some decoy 1 unit armies to other EA cities in the region so that they don't know where to rally their defense.

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:08 am

So sorry I missed this before hand.

(Numbers not TS)
22k Zerkers
8k Pallys

or

11k zerkers
14k knights
6k crossbow

I'm going to commit one army to the battle. Pick which and when you want them to hit.

bounce

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:14 am

I will post the armies I'll be sending this evening in addition to my ram army. Unfortunately my armies are still pretty weak from the battle with Mork so I'll probably only be able to commit an army of around 20 to 30k berserkers with maybe a few thousand rangers sprinkled in. If I can get any of my other armies above 20k TS to send them in time I will do so, but right now the outlook is not so good.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:24 am

Hey Seph, could you send your knights and crossbow army? As for when to hit, anytime around 10:09am is good.

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:58 pm

You want that with or sans baron-ie goodness?

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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:04 pm

I will be the one sieging with the barons Smile But thank you for offering.

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:39 pm

Done and done. Baron-less siege hits at 10:09:20 server time.
1 zerker assaults hitting Star3(Starbase), Bazadil(Nogrod), insomnium(stormend), lordhoagas(lordhoagas), whiteboar(Cuccurucucu) at or around the exact same time.

Everyone throw down a thick cloud of flack so they have no idea what's what.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:56 pm

Both of my armies are on their way to 07Hatsya.

Berserker siege set for 10:07am server time.
Baron siege set for 10:12am server time.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:38 pm

My siege army is on it's way due to arrive at 10:05, I was only able to get 1070 rams since it left much earlier that I thought it would and I sent about another 200 TS in random units. I am also sending mock assaults to Belegost, Nogrod, Starbase, stormend and stormwind.

My berserker army will be leaving just after midnight and is due to arrive at 10:09. I am sending 24k berserkers and 3k rangers. This city also will send mock assaults to all of the same castles listed above.

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:53 pm

As an update, both of my armies are around 35k troop strength.

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Post  Guest on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:23 am

Here is the latest report after my last assault hit:

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Post  Guest on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:36 am

I'm really sorry about this. I knew there would be resistance, but I didn't expect something like this. I think we can learn some valuable things from this, however.

1) Support armies are grouped as one force while siege armies, assaults, etc. are considered separate forces. As such each individual army needs to be big to attack someone who is actually defending themselves.
2) Because of point 1, siege armies need to have other unit types to protect them.

I think the big one is that we need to have bigger overall army sizes. Also we need to get more people involved in attacking, etc. because I think all of EvilAvatars is mobilized against us whereas it's only a few people from WCA fighting them.

Anyone else have any other thoughts?

For now, the siege is still on, I just sent 14k TS to reinforce my baron army and it arrives in 4 hours. Will also be sending some more crossbowmen once I get room.

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:18 am

Here is the latest report. The siege didn't move again. At this point should we stick around for this?


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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:33 am

I would pull out of that, in that last battle you lose 225% more TS than he did. you 4441 him 1982. Those numbers only get worse as his defensive lead grows.

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Re: 07Hatsya (331:569) Siege

Post  Guest on Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:39 am

Alright, considering we took a beating we'll pull out. Can someone make sure Eth and Kryl know this?

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